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This is why your biblical argument against LGBT rights is invalid.

Sodom & Gomorrah remnants

The Story of Sodom and Gomorrah.

I am posting the story straight from the NIV version of the bible below my short (although sweet) rant.
Why do Right-wing Conservative Christians use this passage of text to equate America, where LGBT rights are accelerating into existence, with this old town of Sodom?
Now that gay marriage is legal, it is still very, very different than Sodom and Gomorrah.
Let’s explore.
These two angels went to visit Lot, and Lot tried to get them to not stay with him that night. They insisted, and when the night came, “all the men in the town” came to Lot’s door demanding for him to present the angels so they could all run the train on them.
Lot said “No! Have my virgin daughters instead.” The men of Sodom said “No, we want those men,” and then told him to get out of their way.
Then the angels pulled Lot back in the house, and told him to notify his family to GTFO and not look back because they were going to pulverize that city.
Lot told his family,  they didn’t take him seriously and stayed, and Lot himself tried to stay in his beloved city of rape torture. The Angels grabbed him and his wife and daughters and they GTFO’ed, except his wife turned around for one more look at the city and she was turned into a pillar of salt.
End of Story.
Let’s talk about America. Let’s talk about our rights, and our laws, and what is considered a crime, and what little it takes to get locked up in jail.
If you had a male friend over, angel or not, and your entire neighborhood men came to your door demanding to rape your male friend, what would happen?
In ANY TOWN IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, you could call the cops, they would be there rather shortly to arrest all the gay men for attempted rape. Be honest with yourself, and use your brain, please.
Just because gay people in consensual relationships can now have the same slip of government letterhead(and tax/insurance benefits) as heterosexual couples, does not mean that America is ANYTHING LIKE Sodom and Gomorrah.
Sounds to me like Sodom was a big ol’ town of rape.
When the Supreme court rules it legal for Gang Rape to occur, we will then pick this subject back up and discuss it more then.
Until then, quit using the story of Sodom and Gomorrah to justify your hatred against people that have sex in a different hole than you or use a penis made out of something other than human flesh.
Here is the exact story for anyone who is not up-to-par with it. (Or if you heard it once in Sunday School twenty years ago and are a little bit fuzzy on the details.)

Sodom and Gomorrah Destroyed

19 The two angels arrived at Sodom in the evening, and Lot was sitting in the gateway of the city. When he saw them, he got up to meet them and bowed down with his face to the ground. “My lords,” he said, “please turn aside to your servant’s house. You can wash your feet and spend the night and then go on your way early in the morning.”

“No,” they answered, “we will spend the night in the square.”

But he insisted so strongly that they did go with him and entered his house.He prepared a meal for them, baking bread without yeast, and they ate.Before they had gone to bed, all the men from every part of the city of Sodom—both young and old—surrounded the house. They called to Lot, “Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them.”

Lot went outside to meet them and shut the door behind him and said, “No, my friends. Don’t do this wicked thing. Look, I have two daughters who have never slept with a man. Let me bring them out to you, and you can do what you like with them. But don’t do anything to these men, for they have come under the protection of my roof.”

“Get out of our way,” they replied. “This fellow came here as a foreigner, and now he wants to play the judge! We’ll treat you worse than them.” They kept bringing pressure on Lot and moved forward to break down the door.

10 But the men inside reached out and pulled Lot back into the house and shut the door. 11 Then they struck the men who were at the door of the house, young and old, with blindness so that they could not find the door.

12 The two men said to Lot, “Do you have anyone else here—sons-in-law, sons or daughters, or anyone else in the city who belongs to you? Get them out of here, 13 because we are going to destroy this place. The outcry to the Lordagainst its people is so great that he has sent us to destroy it.”

14 So Lot went out and spoke to his sons-in-law, who were pledged to marry[a]his daughters. He said, “Hurry and get out of this place, because the Lord is about to destroy the city!” But his sons-in-law thought he was joking.

15 With the coming of dawn, the angels urged Lot, saying, “Hurry! Take your wife and your two daughters who are here, or you will be swept away when the city is punished.”

16 When he hesitated, the men grasped his hand and the hands of his wife and of his two daughters and led them safely out of the city, for the Lord was merciful to them. 17 As soon as they had brought them out, one of them said, “Flee for your lives! Don’t look back, and don’t stop anywhere in the plain! Flee to the mountains or you will be swept away!”

18 But Lot said to them, “No, my lords,[b] please! 19 Your[c] servant has found favor in your[d] eyes, and you[e] have shown great kindness to me in sparing my life. But I can’t flee to the mountains; this disaster will overtake me, and I’ll die. 20 Look, here is a town near enough to run to, and it is small. Let me flee to it—it is very small, isn’t it? Then my life will be spared.”

21 He said to him, “Very well, I will grant this request too; I will not overthrow the town you speak of. 22 But flee there quickly, because I cannot do anything until you reach it.” (That is why the town was called Zoar.[f])

23 By the time Lot reached Zoar, the sun had risen over the land. 24 Then theLord rained down burning sulfur on Sodom and Gomorrah—from the Lord out of the heavens. 25 Thus he overthrew those cities and the entire plain, destroying all those living in the cities—and also the vegetation in the land. 26 But Lot’s wife looked back, and she became a pillar of salt.

27 Early the next morning Abraham got up and returned to the place where he had stood before the Lord. 28 He looked down toward Sodom and Gomorrah, toward all the land of the plain, and he saw dense smoke rising from the land, like smoke from a furnace.

29 So when God destroyed the cities of the plain, he remembered Abraham, and he brought Lot out of the catastrophe that overthrew the cities where Lot had lived.